Curse

Antithesis · Jun 11, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by kaply

The reason my other characters failed with the title was because I kept going to the Ice Caves area to kill minotaurs on hard mode.

Minotaurs scatter, nothing scatters on this run unless you agro two groups of Knights. The major slowdown on the moderate and hard runs are the Ritualists - they can take a minute or two to drop.
Depending on the spawn 20 Jades can be done in 3 minutes for 11361 XP ...much faster than Ice Cave minotaurs.

TeeJay · Jun 12, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Looks awesome, defenitly gonna try this soon. I'm an experienced farmer so I guess I won't have to much problems with this.

Greetings TeeJay

Spidey · Jun 15, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Thanks for this!

I took my Elonian ranger to Cantha after I gained Dunkoro. I did all the 2 and 3K quests in Cantha with Dun bonding and me hiding in the rear. I then added Koss after Dunk leveled a bit and got Koss a couple levels. Finally I went back to Elona and gained Meloni and did a couple island quests until I reached Jokanur Diggings then headed back to Cantha.

I used Dunk to bond smite as shown, Meloni for vital blessing and succor only, and Koss for watchfull spirit and mending. My ranger casts symbosis and the prot skill, she has no offensive skills I just relied on the smite by Dunk. Several times I got too close to Dunk and he healed me and gained a few levels stealing some of my XP. Right now Dunk = level 18, Koss = level 16, Meloni = level 9.

So far it has taken 13 hours to Indomitable using mostly Hunter Insight scrolls killing those same 6 knights over and over again. I switched to Rampagers Insight for about an hour before I reached IS, but that's a bit more hectic and slightly more costly. So I think I'll drop back to Hunters again.

My Dervish took me 92 hours to make Legendary Survivor fighting and capping, this method is so much quicker. I think I'll be able to make Legendary in 25-30 hours. Woot!

Thanks again!

Firebaall · Jun 17, 2007, 05:03 AM // 05:03

To the OP:

Thank You.

Finally got my Legendary Survivor on my warrior, and much quicker than I had planned on.

BTW, for those that lost your survivor on that Vizunah Square mission, ugh. I was also robbed in VS. Robbed of killing my Legendary Survivor in some sort of spectacular or bizarre way.

As a side note to that death bug, it happened to me after the first cutscene. Weird!

I'm shocked that Anet hasn't addressed that bug yet (lol....not). Anyways, enough ramble. Cheers!

Spidey · Jun 17, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Spidey

Thanks for this!

I think I'll be able to make Legendary in 25-30 hours. Woot!

Thanks again!

WOW, I actually made it in 19 hours and 7 minutes. This ROCKS. Thank you, thank you!

Abonai Laguna · Jun 18, 2007, 10:00 AM // 10:00

^^Nice work.

hellojohn99 · Jun 21, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Would it be possible to do this with the Agury Rock Hydras in Prophisies?

I'm wondering if they would be a good target on hard mode as they are so easy and safe to farm on normal mode.

Do you think you could modify the build to efficently solo them for a survivor title?

(In my case, I have a rit and do not have nightfall)

Antithesis · Jun 22, 2007, 05:19 AM // 05:19

Check out the prophecies XP farming thread by Witte Was. There's some solo rockshot builds in there.

slickiejeans · Jun 25, 2007, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Don't know if anyone said this but this also works well on trolls. even more on the giants right after the trolls or you could go in drednaught and do giants there. risky with the stomps but those giants go down quick

zerof · Jun 26, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Anyone has opinion on which campaign to unlock hard mode? I plan to do this by myself (ie, without guildies or friends). Pretty much most of my buddies have moved on to other games.

Great guide by the way!

[EDit] NVM. I thought each character has to complete a campaign before seeing the hard mode button. After checking wiki, my survivor toon needs to be lvl 20 before hard mode kicks in.

Antithesis · Jun 27, 2007, 10:17 AM // 10:17

You'll need HM in Factions only.

Thunder79 · Jul 06, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

you need to have completed the factions campaign at least once on that account...and your survivor needs to be level 20 to access hard mode.

MrSlayer · Jul 08, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Another point for this guide; my Ele was being run to Beacons from Ascalon City, and outside Grenditch, another survivor and I were casually stood waiting for the next zone when out of nowhere, a hydra appeared. It patrolled past infront of the outpost. You can dodge it by hiding down to the left of the stairs (facing out from the outpost)

Thunder79 · Jul 14, 2007, 01:22 PM // 13:22

1,271,508xp
Character Age: 61 hours 3 minutes over 22 days

That's how far I got before something stupid killed me.

I extended the easy run a bit beyond the 2 sets of jade knights by running and taking out the 2-3 jade mages next to the ele boss (the separate patrol group that the medium guide warns you about)...little extra xp per run and fairly safe since the mages hit for less than the knights do.

Now how did I reach "You have died 1 time."

Did I agro the jade knights when I was too close to my heroes? yes...several times...but I survived each time.

Did I accidentally agro the boss' group? Yes...several times...but I survived each time.

Did I accidently agro the knights on the bridge as I was attacking the jade mages? yes a couple times...but I survived each time.

So what did I do that people should remember not to do?

After killing the second group of Jade Knights I was over eager and accidentally ran beyond the symbiosis range before my health regened...sending my health to 1...still had 7 pips of regen but some how I died as I sat there waiting for my heroes to hit me with a heal. Apparently if you sit at 1 health long enough even with regen...you'll die. No enemies were near me as I was just about to run to the mages.

(BIG) sigh...time to start all over...what a waste of money...did mostly slayer's scrolls..

don't know if I want to try that long ass grind again...incredibly boring...I think I may go back to just playing the game to get survivor.

Kaleban · Jul 14, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Well, after perusing the guide, its helped quite a bit.

I am using the VwK Rit build in your guide and the two bonders to do the moderate run. The smite bonds, combined with VwK and VW tend to drop Rits fairly quickly, much faster than 1 minute.

I just hit Indomitable Survivor at 11 hours, 4 minutes, and that includes 4-5 hours of just getting everything setup (heroes, skills, equipment, Marketplace etc.). Which means roughly 440k XP in 6 hours. Nice.

BTW, I used Adventurer's scrolls early on, up until I felt comfortable doing the Moderate run, and then switched to Hunter's for the 5 minute boss bonus extension. Gotten several gold drops, runes and even a Jadeite Shard!

The Missing Monk · Jul 15, 2007, 02:24 AM // 02:24

I have a tip for the run from Kaineng to the Market Place - take the quest from Barkeeper X then go out, flag your henchies so they do the quest (kill 1guy) and there will be no pop ups at all (atleast not at the beginning ^^)

Thunder79 · Jul 15, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

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Originally Posted by The Missing Monk

I have a tip for the run from Kaineng to the Market Place - take the quest from Barkeeper X then go out, flag your henchies so they do the quest (kill 1guy) and there will be no pop ups at all (atleast not at the beginning ^^)

yeah henchies can take that guy pretty easily and that clears the safe route to marketplace completely. Just gotta make sure you don't take any other quests such as "Chasing Zenmai", which will spawn enemies on the safe route.

That run is one of the easiest in the game even if you don't take the Barkeeper quest (but with henchies that quest is stupidly easy...so why not for survivors huh?)....as usually it's very simple just to run past the afflicted that spawn next to the safe route (99% of the time you don't even agro)...and other than that...there are no enemies assuming you don't take any other quests.

Here's a little guide to the quests that survivors can safely complete to get easy xp around Kaineng Center and Marketplace:
First...to make things much easier in Wajjun Bazaar...
Take the Quest "The Search for a Cure" from Imperial Agent Hanjo in Kaineng Center. He will tell you to go find Bujo. He can be found a short ways away in Kaineng near the Skills guy on the north side of the town. He'll tell you to find three Jade Brotherhood Guild Capes. It's easiest just to take henchies down to just outside market place and kill the first 3 there (the same first 3 for the legendary survivor guide). Gather up the guild capes and turn in the quest. 3000 xp and now the Am Fah in Wajjun Bazaar (except for a few quest related exceptions) are your friends temporarily. Take the quest Seek out Brother Tosai from Bujo. Go find Tosai in Wajjun Bazaar...make sure to take a healer hench with ya for the next quest...no fighting but you got some temporary degen. When you find him accept the quest reward (3000 xp) and choose to "Drink from the Chalice of Corruption". This is where you will need the healer. Complete the quest (3500 xp) then decline to take the next quest (which is "Masters of Corruption"). Map travel to Marketplace to clear the degen condition (you will not get it again if you enter Wajjun Bazaar). Now the Am Fah in Wajuun Bazzar will be friendly to you.

You can easily complete the following quests with little to no trouble: (note: timing when you take certain quests can save you a lot of time)
Wajjun Bazaar:
-Guardsman Pah: Medical Emergency
-Kaya: Little Lost Bear
-Officer Chitaro: Imperial Assistance / Red Tape (Mutually exclusive quests, Red Tape is easier)
-Officer Chitaro: Luxury Goods
-Paomu: Problem Salving
-Saito: Assassination Attempt (take a full group of henchies and flag them to the position invidcated on the map...easy kill)
Budek Byway:
-Bryan: Going Home (can be trouble if you have Chasing Zenmai active)
-Minister Tahlen: Passing the Buck
-Nakai: Too High a Price (with a full group of henchies it's easy but careful you don't get spiked when attacked, or you can simply pay the debt (250 gold))
Kaineng Center:
-Barkeep Mehoro: The Drunken Master
-Guildmaster Luan: The Emperor in Peril
-Guildmaster Luan: The Plot Thickens
-Guildmaster Luan: It Ends Here (easy...just take a full group of henchies and flag them to the golems)
-Imperial Guardsman Kintae: The Afflicted Guard (easy...full group of henchies should be able to take them out)
-Imperial Guardsman Kintae: Feed the Hungry (flag a full group of henchies on the nearby bridge...they can take the afflicted easily)
-Xunlai Agent Honlo: The Xunlai Agent (flag a full group of henchies to the area....easy)
Raisu Pavilion:
-Emperor's Hand: Captured (flag a full group of henchies to take out the hosile Am Fah)(note: these are some of the few hostile Am Fah that will appear even if you are friends with the rest of the Am Fah in Wajjun Bazaar)
-Emperor's Hand: Naga Oil (easiest just to buy either the naga pelts or the plague remedy from someone in Marketplace or Kaineng Center)
-Emperor's Hand: Street Justice (flag a full group of henchies to each street peddler to take care of the Am Fah that spawn around him)

I think that's it...this will gain you a lot of levels and can be a good way to level up heroes as long as you have the heroes in your party when you accept the quest rewards (don't waste the quest rewards on heroes that are level 20). Feel free to add this to the guide to make this run even easier.

edit: While doing all of these I got 64,926 xp and 16 imperial commendations. That translates to my character going from level 6 (the level I got to just getting to Kaineng Center, I was level 3 coming out of Pre-Searing) to just short of level 15. Dunkoro and Tahlkora were at level 15 and are now level 20. Acolyte Jin went from level 11 to level 17.

Antithesis · Jul 15, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by Thunder79

1,271,508xp
Character Age: 61 hours 3 minutes over 22 days
That's how far I got before something stupid killed me.
-- snip --
(BIG) sigh...time to start all over...what a waste of money...did mostly slayer's scrolls..
-- snip --
don't know if I want to try that long ass grind again...incredibly boring...I think I may go back to just playing the game to get survivor.

Tough luck...i killed four tier 1 survivors writing the guide working out the spawns, armour levels, skillbars and bonders

100% agree - the short run is effective but mind numbing with zero challenge which is why i started testing the longer runs.

By far the easiest and most fun way to do it is with a Me/Mo - with Mantra of Resolve you can't be interrupted and can tank 15 Jades at a time; Backfire, Empathy and Diversion own the Rits + Shen (the Monk boss) and you can clear all 95 to 100 Jade Brotherhood in *about* 20 mins for 70,000+XP (with 3 Slayer's scrolls). It takes less than 20 full runs in HM with scrolls to get the title vs 350+ short runs, so it's much less boring, requires fewer scrolls and at about 5-7 hours, it's less time-consuming.

I haven't bothered buying any scrolls lately - go farm [wiki]Byzzr Wingmender[/wiki] with a 55 [skill=text]Spoil Victor[/skill] build (works on any X/N or N/X) and you'll get all the scrolls you need.

Thunder79 · Jul 15, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Tough luck...i killed four tier 1 survivors writing the guide working out the spawns, armour levels, skillbars and bonders

100% agree - the short run is effective but mind numbing with zero challenge which is why i started testing the longer runs.

By far the easiest and most fun way to do it is with a Me/Mo - with Mantra of Resolve you can't be interrupted and can tank 15 Jades at a time; Backfire, Empathy and Diversion own the Rits + Shen (the Monk boss) and you can clear all 95 to 100 Jade Brotherhood in *about* 20 mins for 70,000+XP (with 3 Slayer's scrolls). It takes less than 20 full runs in HM with scrolls to get the title vs 350+ short runs, so it's much less boring, requires fewer scrolls and at about 5-7 hours, it's less time-consuming.

I haven't bothered buying any scrolls lately - go farm [wiki]Byzzr Wingmender[/wiki] with a 55 [skill=text]Spoil Victor[/skill] build (works on any X/N or N/X) and you'll get all the scrolls you need.

Already went through another creation of the same character...first try at low level (level 5) and I got killed trying that life bond build (dual bonders with life bond on the smiter)...symbiosis ended early...taking a small break now...geting some skills unlocked on my second account...which will make running myself easier. Dervish/Assassin Dark Silence Runner is by far the best running build I've used. Makes the run from Ascalon to Lion's Arch a piece of Cake.

Trying to get my first legendary to be the first character I created...my prophecies ranger...I'm hoping to get it by the time GW:EN is out...so I can play GW:EN using her.

Kaleban · Jul 16, 2007, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Welp, while this guide is of great value, I must say ANet's servers leave something to be desired.

Was at 1,217,621 XP on my Rit/Mo, got double interrupted, and double tapped spacebar logout, with over 1000 health left when I was sent to the login screen.

Logged back in and got the message "You have died 1 time." 16 hours of grind down the tubes. Makes me want to quit MMOs like this altogether when stuff like that happens.

Ah well. Such is life.